Hi Steve here from Tiger Medical Institute. We continue on with our next interview with Dr. Jeremy Stitch as we continue our summit on the future of precision personalized medicine. Dr. Jeremy Stitch received his medical degree from the University of Kentucky.

He began his career in emergency medicine. It was there that Dr. Stitch realized the impact of a more proactive approach to healthcare which led him to form direct care practices and eventually co-founded a genetics based medical company. His medical and personal journey led him to bio regenics as he. Bioenergetics.

I'm sorry. As he witnessed undeniable outcomes for many patients including his own daughter. Dr. Stitch is now passionate about bringing bioenergetics to patients, practitioners and the scientific community. He currently serves as chief medical officer of Xboo Health.

Dr. Jeremy, welcome to the summit. Hey, thanks Steve. I appreciate it, man. It's a mouthful.

Ah, that's all right though. I mean you have a very interesting background and you have this philosophy to practicing medicine and to care that we want to unpack. But let's talk just a little bit about your background and kind of, you know, how you arrived to this point. Maybe some of the companies. Because there's some companies that I think a lot of people have heard of that you've been involved in.

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Well appreciate the availability and time and the opportunity to speak, man. It's great to share knowledge. It's great to like be part of a brotherhood and you know, you. I have been friends for a while, so this is cool.

Yeah, you bet. Um, yeah. Is my sound okay by the way? I've got a little bit of background Y. Okay, cool.

Sounds good. Yeah, Just kind of walk people through your background a little bit. Yeah, yeah, for sure. So, um. Well, I didn't know I was going to go into medicine at first.

I kind of had this calling, felt the calling. Went to med school, did kind of what everybody does. Right. We have the passion. I wanted to help people.

I had no idea what the hell that actually meant. So I had to unpack that and, and really kind of get to it which is a whole nother part of journey. But you know, I landed in, in a specialty called triple board which was like psych, child psych and peds combined. There's not very many specialties. Frein loved it.

But then I realized like a lot of that was just kind of like pushing prescriptions. So by the end of it I had a great mentor who didn't do that. Yep. And towards the end of it I was like, this is not me. I went back and did emergency medicine and just kind of loved the thrill.

Yeah. Not knowing what you're gonna see day to day. Yeah. It's like. It's the.

It's one of these few bastions left where you can really practice, use your intuition and be creative and make the best of, you know, sometimes crummy scenarios. So I love that. Like, I thought it was really, really fun. But as. There's always a but.

Right. You realize pretty quickly that, like, this was the safety net of the medical system. And without that, like, you know, we saw so many patients who were like, my doctor told me, come here. I couldn't get in for four weeks, or I had this or that. And I was told to come here.

My labs were abnormal. I was told to come here. H. You realize pretty quickly that if you pull that net out from that system, there's, like, nothing to catch a lot of these folks. And the pattern started becoming really obvious.

Right. You see folks who are just kind of circling, and we would often do heroic measures, keep them alive, rescue them, do whatever. But it wasn't really enough to get them out of that loop, out of the swirl, what I call the death swirl. Right. It's literally circling the drain going down. And you've got to have, like, a holistic, really, really thoughtful, personalized approach to get somebody out of that. Yeah. And is that what led you to go that direction with your life and your career? Yeah, totally.

You know, at first, I've always been entrepreneurial. I always, like, it wasn't. It wasn't good enough what we were doing. So I was always looking to create something new. And a couple buddies were like, hey, there's this practice called direct primary care.

It's a style of medicine where it's a membership basase, like fifty to a hundred bucks a month, and there's nobody in our area doing it. In fact, there was, like, very, very few at that time. East of the Mississippi. Yep. So I went out and visited some of those practices.

I know you're familiar with the space. Yeah. And we started a couple, and it was cool. It was. It was a faster wheel.

Yeah. And he enabled you to do medicine the way you wanted to do it. It did. Yeah, it did. Did. But it was still sick here. And that's. That's the one thing, like, you know, I had to get proactive. And we built those practices. We built up the practice census to a couple of thousand people had this idea of, like, franchising it and, you know, creating the box, but it Was just still not quite what I was looking for. So, you know, I pulled in some friends of mine, were starting a genetics company. There wasn't an organizing officer. That was Wild Health, probably one of the companies you're alluding to. Yep.

And I joined that. Basically sold my practices, joined that and took this like, cool concept and we organized it in a way that made it really deliverable. So we created systems. We had health coaches, we had doctors, and we'd walk people down this journey. And it was all genetics based.

Yeah. And how did you. Were you done? I wan toa make sure I'm not cutting you off. It's okay.

I don't wanna talk too much about it. But, you know, it was that. That leap, looking at the genetics and realizing, you know, it wasn't really the genetics that was healing people. We had a little bit of knowledge there. Yeah.

But it opened up Pandora's box of epigenetics. You know, what regulates the genes, what turns them on and turns them off. And I became like, really good at helping people methylate and non methylate or acetylate or whatever it was that what effectively was on and off switches to these genes. Right, right. Yeah.

And that, I think that was really the key, you know, having the knowledge, doing the precision medicine, seeing these, like, massive workups. We would. We would test the wazoo out of people, you know, thirtyars to $50,000 worth of testing a year. Oh, my gosh. Wow.

Yeah. And the beautiful thing about it was everybody was so compliant. You know, everybody's super motivated. You know, there's like professional athletes and high powered executives and people who wanted to get the next edge. So the learning that happened there, the relationships were phenomenal.

They allowed me to really see, like, what was making the impact. And I realized pretty quickly it was the person's individual decision making, their lifestyle. Yeah. You know, it was those kind of things, these environmental patterns. And I remember so vividly this one story.

There's a woman, she's since become a good friend of mine. At that point, she was a patient and she went on this spiritual journey. And for the life of us, we had been working on like, these two labs, these two abnormalities that we just couldn't fix. And one of them was a methylation marker, and the other was an inflammation marker, didn't have any inflammatory. So autoimmune markers is what she thought, but she actually didn't.

Yep. So she goes on the spiritual journey, Steve. And she comes back and she's like, bright and she's got like big smiles. And rosy cheeks. Her complexion looks different.

Yep. And like. Okay, that's cool. Yeah, yeah, they got better both just like that, within a week, just with their own. Right.

Was this the precursor to the bioenergetics work? It was, you know, it was like bioenergetics is sort of, I don't actually even advise for that company anymore. We kind, we finished that work and got them across the line. But bioeneretics is really like a subset of what's called biophysics. Okay.

And biophysics is the study of how energy basically manifest to into matter. And we know that modern physics. So a brief history lesson on medicine, right. 150 years of biochemistry as like biochemistry drives everything, which is the equivalent of like billiard balls bouncing off of each other. Yep.

Okay. And up to this point it was really like 1920s and 1930s where quantum physics came onto the scene. We thought that drove everything, everything was really, really mechanical in nature. But the premise of physics at that point, and you know, Einstein's brilliant equals MC squared. Is that actually like it's not.

Yeah, you know, it's really energy creates matter, not the other way around. But we've got industries that are based on biochemistry that are, you know, decades, decades old. So like all the care, all of the protocols, all of the studies, they take a while to replicate. Yeah. And we're just now kind of moving into that biophysics era.

So modern medicine, modern health looks really different. Right. The difference between a CT scan or an X ray, an MRI is night and day. And that's sort of an easy example to think of of like a chemistry versus a physics based approach where you're looking at resonance and shaking hydrogen ions with no radiation, an mri and you're looking at like hard matter and penetration through that matter with an X ray with a CT scanner. Right, right.

Yeah. So that's kind of how I got into this. And there was a lot of personal stories, a lot of really like eye opening, amazing things that I saw where, you know, the paradigm of biochemistry just didn't make sense anymore. Like I couldn't look at some of the things I witnessed even with my own daughter, like nerves coming back online and like, yeah, that, that is how it happens because there's no explanation. Right.

It was the physics, the way based stuff and the energetics that really kind of helped turn those systems on. Okay. And the key was realizing like putting together those experiences, you know, watching all these patients have these eye opening experiences, work on their personal relationships, work on all this other stuff. And I was, you're like chipping away, kind of like trying to carve a statue on a marble, just little piece at a time at the matter. And then they went start working on their environment and their relationships and how they view themselves and then make these watershed changes.

Wow. And that's where kind of it all clicks together. It's like you can't really. You can't really just look at the body. You can't really just look at the environment or the energy or who you are.

You have to put the three of them together, which is sort of where my practice philosophy evolved. Well, we've got 13 minutes and I want. I wanna make sure you get a chance to really lay these three out. Can you lay out the three, you know, pillars, if you will, of your approach now using bioenergetics? Yeah, yeah, of course.

Like, the simplest way to think of it is boiled it down to these three concepts of first, second and third principles. Okay. So if you're going to look at a system, like a complex system, like a human body, which there's really nothing that we make that's even close to that complexity as humans. Right, right. And we have to think about, like, how those different.

Those different parts of that work together. And you essentially have, like, three things. You have. We'll call first your body. That's the simplest one to understand.

It's the material body. Once things have already manifested, once you are who you are, you form from an embryo to an adult and all the life experiences that have happened, that's your body.

The second is the energy and the environment around you. You know, the relationships, the community, the inputs. So all the different. They're technically called fields. You know, you walk outside, you feel light, that's a field.

Live under a power line, that's a field. You walk into an X ray, that's a field. Like those things are the energies, and those are constantly interacting, feeding back, informing your body how to work. Right. And then the third one is the most complicated, which is your being.

This. It's who you are. I call it your consciousness. Some people would call it your soul or your spirit, goes by a lot of names. But it's fundamentally how we see ourselves.

It's this internal dialogue with who we are, the stories that we tell ourselves.

And the interesting part of that one is that it's constantly sending signals. It's constantly rewiring your nervous system. So I explained it in terms of the easiest ways to understand it. But the way that our body actually works is actually quite the opposite. So the first principle is our Consciousness and our being.

This. Yeah. Right. The second is the energy and the environment and then the third is the body. So by the time like we are who we are, you've had, you know, days to decades of information and interaction and programming in your nervous system that make your body work the unique way that it works today.

Yeah. So is the way people show up today with their health a ref then of those first two principles? By and large it is. And you, that's what you realize. You, you start doing the research on epigenetics and there's just really mysterious concepts that simply cannot be explained by biochemistry alone.

Like take meditation for instance. Right. I was not, I was super allopathic when I started this journey. I did not meditate. I've been a spiritual person my whole life.

You know, I was. My spirituality wasn a religion before and now it's just more holistic. But it's. I never meditated. Right.

I started looking at the mindfulness based research, I started looking at the epigenetics and there are some studies that started showing something as little as meditative. Each day would up regulate 500 different genes. It's incredible. It's like 1 14, 400 studies that support it. Yeah.

It's phenomenal, isn't it? I know it is. And I'mrry sorry I'm jumping in on you. You know, if you have a lot of noise going on at a subconscious level in your beingness and your spirit, if you owe your consciousness, that can trip you into sympathetic or that stress response. Right.

And then that does all kinds of bad things to us. You're totally right. So if we think of it in terms of principles, you'got first, second, third. Right. But let's just map this out.

Okay. This is a bit grotesque, Steve, so bear with me on the explanation. But let's just say hypothetically, you take your brain and you take your spinal cord and then all the nerves and you were to just fillet them open. Right. And you spread them out.

Bo that looks a lot like a giant antennae. Wow. If you think about how antennas work. Right. Think about just like, remember the old school antenna? You get your arms, you get your legs, and all those little nerve endings just reaching out. That's exactly how it works. Your brain in that analogy is the processor. Right. Your mind is the software, your brain is the processor.

Yep. And your nervous system is in charge of doing exactly what an antenna does. A lot of people don't realize, but an antenna both sends and receives information. Yeah. Wow.

So that's a great Analogy. Well's you realize really quickly this, it has to work like this. It's the only way that it makes sense. And when you start seeing these changes, when people would put in the hard individual personal work and I'm just sitting here like just working with them like crazy, trying to drive five or six habits, they're just, if they're moving the needle, they're helpful, but not nearly as helpful as like when they change, they forgive their sister who they feud with or they like stop working 70 hours a week and like focus on their family. And then all of a sudden like the inflammation goes away.

So when you put the flesh back on, if you fix the antenna, what they're sending and receiving and how they're perceiving what they receive, then the flesh gets better in a sense. Yeah, totally. And we had, we had some cool experiences. I mean it's probably too much to go into, but like one of the technologies that I've developed with aortal, um, we took this like very, very cool analog. It's like a multifocal pulse electromagnetic wave therapy.

And we would actually like take the guts of that and work. My partner and I would work on people hands on, like literally put your hands on people with these electromagnetic waves. Oh wow. And they'd start having crazy experiences that are common in, you know, somatic workers and massage therapists. Like, but I didn't know about them as a doctor, but youep somebody's shoulder and they'd like just start crying and talk about like'never been touched in a non sexual way by a man.

And're like holy crap. Like I don't know what to do with this. There's nothing in my training. Wow. Yeah.

Then they function differently. Cause that nervous system all of a sudden releases that tension, right? And it's literally like cleaning off. Go back to the analogy. It's like cleaning the dirt off the antenna. You know, all we did was apply a little bit of energy, a little bit of electromagnetism to the right spot and all of a sudden like boom, it jumps back on. So when you work with people apply, you apply this. How do you do that? Like what's a process somebody would go through if they were to work with you? Dr. Jeremy that's just really. So I kind of similar. Our clientele look fairly similar, you know, like the folks that I work with, it's usually a fairly intense one on one type of relationship. Most of my time is spent as like a medical director or an advisor or like a chief medical officer in that capacity just because it's, it's impossible to do that at scale one on one. So for the technology, that kind of what we were alluding to, like actually one of the companies, we put it into this really, really fancy bed and that's, you know, version one of the tech that's called a mortal.

Mm R T L got it. And we put that with another, a bunch of other modalities with guided meditation and really like therapeutic, thoughtful, custom music. And you just kind of like go into this meditative state and it hits you with all these different fields. Right. So that's one way.

Yep. And then individually, like we'll do the deep dive and we kind of think about the body and the mind and the consciousness as this interacting three entities that you have to address all three. So you know, a lot of my clients are, are those like high powered executives, super motivated athletes, whatever, who are willing to do the hard work. And you know, we'll start looking at how does their mindset tie to their labs. Yeah, right.

Always. I almost always start at the body level and the chemistry is. And doing a big workup. Just so we're looking and seeing like what's the state of your body and your health today? Right?

Yep. Right. And then there's practices that we'll recommend, um, through some of the products. Yeah, products. Yeah, practices. And then we'll kind of tie it into how they think about themselves. You know, I messaged it with one of my, my friends and patients this morning about this whole idea like the guy'super super successful, growing his business. You got to the half a billion dollar point and it's a block. Absolutely won't let go. And what is his lab show?

Like subclinical autoimmune disease. Doesn't make sense. The, the numbers are like, you know, they don't follow a specific category. And it all has to do with this kind of like self sabotage of like letting go. When you get to that level, you can't micromanage anymore.

No, right. He's gott Reinend himself. Yeah, absolutely. And that created a ceiling for him. And we tie those things.

So, you know, what are the, how are the ways we can support him? And we kind of go into a lot of crazy stuff like we'll do kind of be therapy. We'll do the personalized work, we'll do the repeat testing. It's that kind of work that I do with folks. It's not again, super scalable.

But I've got a small practice in Kentucky where my partner and I work together and then I do a lot of medical directorships where I'm know folks, I'm delivering that. Can people work with you virtually too, Jeremy, or not? Yeah, for sure. I'm licensed in low states. Yeah.

Okay, well, how do people get a hold of you? Like, if they want to learn about working with you or about amortal. How would they find these things? Yeah, that's a good question. I think the ones that are like, ready to scale and do today we have a company called Live Ly V.

We deliver for personalized, kind of integrative and functional care through that for the technology immortal.com. it's super simple. It's like immortal spelled incorrectly. A M O R. And then live is l y v.com.

correct. Corree. Okay. Yeah. That's awesome.

The last words. Go ahead. We got a minute left, so go ahead. O. I was just gonna say the other stuff's. It's really kind of by referral. I kind of work with the folks who just. Because my time. Other stuff is super limited. Yeah, no problem. They know if they get a hold of me, I can refer them to you too. It's probably a safe bet. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Jeremy, thank you for joining us for the summit, man.

Thanks for what you're doing. It's super cool. You've got a brilliant business mind. And you, you. You're one of the rare individuals I've seen who's like successfully turned the health model into a viable business and senior evolution and witnessed it over time.

Bo on to watch. Thank you. Well, it's been, you know, it's been mostly my own journey of getting me better. And then I try to apply it to the business and share it with others and, you know, we've landed on a core model at Tiger Medical where it's a narrow focus on metabolic health and we get people a lot better. And then it enables them to work with other folks to go to that next level and more of these specialty areas like what you're talking about.

So, yeah, it's been a lot of fun. Thank you. Oh, that's cool. To each his own. We always.

We got to find each other where we are and help support each other. So that's awesome. I agree. Thank you for joining us. Thanks for having me.